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  • Initial appeal here: http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:15551

    This topic is made for people to cast their votes whether Bocchiere (User:Bocchi-chan) should keep his admin rights or should be demoted. When voting, please use this format:

    SL name: |in-game name in Shinobi Legends|

    Should Bocchiere be retained or removed: |Indicate Retain or Remove|

    Reason/Justification: |This section should indicate why you think he should keep his admin rights or not. Please be reminded that we are talking about his capability to handle the job as an admin here in our wikia. If you need to cite examples, you can show screenshots.|

    VOTES:

    RETAIN: 6

    (Shadow, Nigiri, Mieko, Selene, Hotaru, UettoSenju)

    REMOVE: 8

    (Warren, Chinote, Kayenta, Xiarawst, Ice, Hobbygobby, Koji, Lonewarrior)


    Notes on voting:

    1. This will be updated as votes are being tallied. I will include the names of those who voted for all to see.

    2. Votes with no reasons/justifications will not be counted. We need everyone's output to sort out this issue. Reasons like "Because he's nice to me", "We're friends" are not helpful, are irrelevant to this topic and will not be counted.

    3. Those who do not have wikia accounts can send in their votes through PM in the SL site. Send them to me (Sensō no Yomi) and I will screenshot and copy-paste it here to be included (if they are counted as valid votes).

    4. Voting will end on March 18th, 2016 (That will be March 19th on my time). I will be putting up a post that will indicate votes will no longer be accepted.

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    • SL name: Warren

      Should Bocchiere be retained or removed: Remove

      Reason/Justification: Repeated abuse and misuse of admin power, breaking of and refusal to follow multiple rules on multiple occasions, public slandering, insulting, baseless accusing and multiple ways of harassing people some of which at personal off-site level, repeated attempts to incite harassment and hatred towards specific groups of people.

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    • Chinote

      Remove

      In my on and off decade on SL I have always known Bocchiere as a inoperable tumor. In the years since I've largely ignored his existence. But those things aren't relevant. People can change, which sometimes holds true. Obviousl, not in this case, though. When I decided to be more active in the last half year, I became more aware of the meta in large. When Bocchiere was first put up for election, I voted against him out of spite. Now, I can say I vote for his removal because of the cases presented by both sides, it is obvious that he is abusing his position for his own gain. Such a person should never be allowed to have power in the first place, but now we have a chance to fix it.

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    • Shadow

      Retain

      Power was used in such a way to keep members from relentlessly undoing an edit that was made. This edit was towards the SSM swords and while he did it. I or Ryoji could have done the same, but Bocc took it upon his self to do it. Since then he has given the swords back to Kiri. Opting to not be bothered with it anymore. If this edit is to be continued to be undone about me having the sword I will fight against it myself with undoing their edit.

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    • SL name: Kayenta Moenkopi

      Should Bocchiere be retained or removed: Remove

      Reason/Justification:

      My vote is based upon the rules about Admin Accountability for the wikia. Just take a look and then we will see how many of these things Bocchiere has done.

      Accountability

      Policy shortcut:

      Administrators are accountable for their actions involving administrator tools, and unexplained administrator actions can demoralize other editors who lack such tools. Subject only to the bounds ofcivilityavoiding personal attacks, and reasonable good faith, editors are free to question or to criticize administrator actions. Administrators are expected to respond promptly and civilly to queries about their Wikipedia-related conduct and administrator actions and to justify them when needed.

      Administrators who seriously, or repeatedly, act in a problematic manner or have lost the trust or confidence of the community may be sanctioned or have their access removed. In the past, this has happened or been suggested for:


      • "Bad faith" adminship (sock puppetry, gross breach of trust,[7] etc.)
      • Breach of basic policies (attacks, biting/civility, edit warring, privacy, etc.)
      • Conduct elsewhere incompatible with adminship (off-site attacking, etc.).
      • Failure to communicate[6] – this can be either to users (e.g., lack of suitable warnings or explanations of actions), or to concerns of the community (especially when explanations or other serious comments are sought).
      • Repeated or consistent poor judgment

      So My objections:

      1] Failure to provide an atmposphere where "editors are free to question or to criticize administrator actions." --> Yomi got banned for making an edit, was never talked to about it or had the action explained. Simply was accused of inciting an editing war.

      2] Administrators are expected to respond promptly and civilly to queries about their Wikipedia-related conduct and administrator actions and to justify them when needed. --> I have yet to see bocchiere respond civily to any instance where his actions are being questioned. Quite the opposite. You have seen it for yourselves. His words are abusive and lean toward personal attacks or just a blatant refusal to be questioned informing us to deal with his decision. End of discussion.

      3] SockPuppetry--> look it up. Its making an alt to gain access. Yumei perma banned him from this wikia because of his harassment and abusive behavior. Yet here he is on another account acting in the same manner as before. Only now he is the one in charge. 

      4] Breach of basic policies --> He has breeched them in every way. He has been prone to "attacks, biting/civility, edit warring, privacy" violations. 

      5] Conduct elsewhere incompatible with adminship (off-site attacking, etc.) --> Xia tried to post links to the discussion thread on this wikia to SL about removing Bocc as admin. He posted a link in the SL Mission HQ. Then Bocc slams him, trips the langauge sensor in the process, and flips the world the bird. And that is one instance where he violates this rule.

      6] Failure to communicate--> Yes he fails here as well. He did not notify the numerous people whose claims he removed from the claimed list. Not just the Kiri people. I was shocked to look at it and see how devoid of content it now is. SO much for preserving the history of SL. Current owners could have been added. But no, whole items are now gone forever. and where was the discussion or notification to each individual that this was going to happen? Uhm, no where?

      7] Repeated or consistent poor judgment--> Well, I would say this is a big offense. Looking at all the main offenses he has committed, and being able to say he has done each and every one of those, this clearly demonstrates repeated and consistently poor judgement.

      8] Abuse of power to benefit himself and his friends--> So, he didn't like the swords being inactive? Why not give them to other Kiri ninja if that was the motivation? No, he claimed some for himself and dealt them out to his friends who also are not Kiri affiliates.

      9] And mostly Obstinance--> when he thinks something has to be a certain way, then that is it. For instance. Gitsune was using the swords and keeping them active in actual sparing RP. But he decided that was not real acitivty and was not going to permit that to count. No discussion.

      And then just down right vulgarity. This is not the sort of personality we need to run this site. And I quote:

      http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:14228

      Do us all a favor, AJ, and choke on my cock the next time you're blowing me. 

      Love, Your Dom,

      Bocch. 

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      Xiarawst's vote

      Sent through PM.

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      Nigiri's vote

      Sent through PM.

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    • SL name: ShinobiIceSlayer (One of SL's moderators)

      Should Bocchiere be retained or removed: Remove

      Reason/Justification:

      For the most part the staff of Shinobi Legends stay out of RP conflicts, and only step in when the rules of the site are broken in the resulting petty arguments which often break out, especially when the subject of this vote is involved.

      Recently the staff appointed Game Masters to our staff to help assist with the RP situation, a position which Bocchiere applied for, and was not selected for after a voting and review of applications.

      However since this time Bocchiere has managed to rise up the ranks on this wikia, which brings us to the current situation. Since this point we have received numerous complaints from members regarding him for many reasons including, abuse of power, harassment and intimidation towards players, trying to enforce this wikia as law on the site and bullying others into following his will. I would refer one to Kayenta Moenkopi for more specific examples of these offenses.

      For a long time this Wikia has existed to serve as a useful tool to assist with the RP of our site, however of late Bocchiere has attempted to use it to enforce his own agenda on the players of the site, and set himself up as some sort of god, to which we as a staff are opposed to, and as such wish that he be removed from this position in the interests of our players.

      Should nothing be done to remedy this situation we will only have the choice of public disavowing the site, and encouraging all members to no longer use it as a tool to assist in site RP while we investigate an alternative where we will not have to worry about such a situation again in the future.

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      Hobbygobby's vote

      Sent through PM.

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    • Kaitohozuki wrote:

      trying to enforce this wikia as law on the site and bullying others 

      Myself and Yomi will not be voting to keep things fair but that doesn't mean I'm making no comments. That is a blatant lie. I said many times I have no power on SL and do not care what people do, claim, or rp on SL. My only concern was enforcing the rules on the wiki as I knew them.

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    • Bocchi-chan wrote:
      Kaitohozuki wrote:
      trying to enforce this wikia as law on the site and bullying others 
      Myself and Yomi will not be voting to keep things fair but that doesn't mean I'm making no comments. That is a blatant lie. I said many times I have no power on SL and do not care what people do, claim, or rp on SL. My only concern was enforcing the rules on the wiki as I knew them.

      I'm sorry but I'll have disagree with you here, as there are numerous instances on the site where you have gone out of your way to try and enforce your little 'rules' (which Yomi had to call you out on so don't try setting yourself up with her now you've been told to play nicely with her) from this wikia, resulting arguments there. I've attached below just one recent example of your behavior towards those who have attempted to stand up to you, and have lead to creation of this current situation. I would also encourage any other members to share other screenshots of commentary or messages which further show this point.

      Further more before you resume your usual tactic of claiming unfair treatment by the moderators, and Ace is the only good mod, I specifically showed Ace this post before I made it, and he agreed with the points made there in, as we are united in purpose on this subject.
      Bocch
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    • Yet you provide no proof of any such numerous examples. Just like Kiri provided no evidence of anything either, just their own thoughts and opinions about me. Yeah the people "standing up" to me. Ok. Manipulate however you want man. It's all up in the air now and we just need to see where everything falls. 

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    • SL name: 影 Koji

      Should Bocchiere be retained or removed: Remove

      Reason/Justification: Abuse and misue of Admin power, harassment to peers, and breaching all of the Admin Accountability rules that were set up by the Wikia staff. 

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    • The voting can cease now, I've removed all admin powers from my acccount, I should just be a regular user now, if Yomi could double check though that would be great. 

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    • Was gonna vote to retain, but apparently the vote would not have mattered. 

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      Mieko's vote

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      Selene's vote

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      Hotaru's vote

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      LonewarrioroftheAbyss's vote

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      UettoSenju's vote

      All sent through PM and shown for transparency.

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    • Bocchi-chan wrote: The voting can cease now, I've removed all admin powers from my acccount, I should just be a regular user now, if Yomi could double check though that would be great. 

      Wikia-scrn001
      Wikia-scrn002

      Double checked and uploaded screenshots for confirmation

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    • Just as a point of reference, it says I changed from bureacrat, admin, and poweruser to just poweruser. As you can see in the first screenshot there is no option to make someone a power user. It is something wiki central does and it is a posistion that does not actually grant any abilities, just in case people are scared I'm trying to fool them by keeping one high level posistion or something. 

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    • Bocchi-chan wrote: Just as a point of reference, it says I changed from bureacrat, admin, and poweruser to just poweruser. As you can see in the first screenshot there is no option to make someone a power user. It is something wiki central does and it is a posistion that does not actually grant any abilities, just in case people are scared I'm trying to fool them by keeping one high level posistion or something. 


      Powerusers are defined as members who actively edit/participate here in the wikia. It's an automatic flag, for everyone's information.

      http://answers.wikia.com/wiki/What_is_the_poweruser_user_group_on_Wikia

      http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:810670

      Also, given Bocchiere's resignation from the admin spot and having talked to him about the matter, this poll will now be closed. Votes will not be accepted from this point on.

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    • SL name: Moonfire

      Should Bocchiere be retained or removed: Remove?

      Reason/Justification:Ah, count it or don't,it is really up to you all.I will be blunt, back theni voted for Bocchi to be  an Admin, why? Cause he has good  sides,you only have to be patient. Patient and be able to listen well and attempt tomove things into a way both parties are okay with.

      easier than  it sounds, for it also means to step on your very own pride. If you have no real pride or self confidence like me( Kay  please don't stomp on  me, now), it is easier. I am peaceloving, my character on the other hand feel slike buning down villages. Ah imagine how well Konoha would burn~...

      Back on track, like i said back then i voted him to be an admin, since there are good qualities.he can lead Roleplays and he should actualy also know what to do so people are satisfied, but recently you only hear negative things. The same negative things like years ago. People decide to ignore him mutually throughout the realm. Why? Is it spite? No i do not think it is just that. Such descisions are foundated on something. So yes, i now vote for Removal.

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